Submissive Men: Their Relationship to Pain
» BDSM, D/s, S&M: Speculations
. . . The vibrating clamps had been torturing my testicles for the entire time I’d been in the closet. Gagged, all I could do was moan incoherently . . .
Not really.
Doesn’t it often seem that submissive males are more focused on intense pain and harsh humiliation (opposed perhaps to humility) than their Dominas? The latter being more attuned to deference and attentiveness?
Do men find in S&M an alternative orgasm, a parallel form of sexual intercourse? (For those in non-penetrative relationships it may take the place of coitus.)
Gay male BDSM relationships often seem to involve considerable pain and humiliation (though it easily forgotten passionate love). Is it to phrase it vulgarly a ‘man thing.’
A bad generalization most likely. But worth trying to think out more fully some day.


Comments
I’ve read this a few times, apparently male sadists focus more on pain and quantity thereof, wheras female sadists are more inclined to want to enduce humiliating acts and headspaces. This is of course a complete and possibly BAD generalization, I know personally it’s a mix of both that does it for me.
Posted by: Alexandra | August 16, 2005 8:01 AM
I probably should’ve held this entry back until I felt like working it out more.
From scanning BDSM forums and weblogs I’ve gotten the impression that male submissives may crave pain and extreme humiliation than female submissives. And in F/m relationships more than their dominant partner.
Or maybe just talk about it more.
Mostly I was just curious to see what other folks opinions might be.
Posted by: Richard | August 16, 2005 12:03 PM
I saw many sub men come and go when i ‘worked’ as a house slave to a small independent Prodomme establishment. It seemed to me that sub men come in all flavors. Some sought serious pain and some merely wanted a little slap and tickle. The sub women on b.com and such forums appear more hardcore than most men i met during my slave years. However the Dom men on the same forums also appear more hardcore than many of the Dom women i knew. Is it possible that a Dom man and a sub man together create a stronger pain dynamic? Is it the old macho competitive thing raising its head in a bdsm setting?
Posted by: claude | August 18, 2005 5:21 AM
Probably my speculation was prompted by the behavior of many ‘submissive’ men online. Though I’ve heard the same from folks who go to munch group meetings and fetish parties.
Really I was mostly wondering if for submissive men S&M offers satisfaction similar to that of an orgasm (not that much D/s play doesn’t have a similar effect).
Posted by: Richard | August 18, 2005 5:45 PM
I belive that the submissive man himself wants more pain and the female domme has to fulfill whatever the limit is. If the domme goes over the limit then the trust can be broken. So the domme has to always keep it a little under the extreme.
Posted by: Caesars Webmaster | February 25, 2006 3:38 PM
I certainly have to trust Alexandra’s perceptions. If I ever get too badly hurt it will be because I pushed at her to hurt me beyond my capacity. Thankfully I can trust her completely.
Thanks.
Posted by: Richard | February 25, 2006 4:04 PM
i agree with richard as a sadist myself i find my slaves more interested in the pain than the pleasure of things
Posted by: daniel | March 10, 2006 9:37 PM
i’am the one that loves the pain. and iam the male. my wife can take pain lots of it ,but she love’s to gave it. iam her sub. and for one for 10 years. i love to be left in pain before she goes out for a date. so she takes to to my room first a good ass whiping ,with some ball kicking ,and dick pulling. then to the bed .first a big butt pug. a bag on the balls as they tied to the ciling , then a pumb on the dick sometimes. and all on untill she gets home and thats in the morning, she comes in to take stuff off,but first, she seats on my face as she tells me about it, after i clean her out she takes off but before my legs and hands are free , she free the balls from the pulling all night and then takes a paddle or shoes to them untill i cry out in pain , then my legs free , and then hands, i get up thank her. and go get ready for work. but before i go out the door a hardness is put on me. i haven’t had a ogasom. for five month now. and she said i could have one as soon as my balls full up,and they drop down four inch. my balls stay real close even in pulling . so off to work i go.
Posted by: thomas | September 14, 2009 10:58 PM