Some Guys are Hard to Humiliate

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On Fetish Lore Fledgingwings wrote:

At first I found pet’s equanimity somewhat hard to process.

Alexandra has certainly has those feelings with me.

Embarrassment requires some emotional connection with social norms. But most norms are conventions, stupid ones at that. Given my own mix of anarchism, libertarianism, rationalism and the strong suspicion that the universe is the prank of a very lazy god it isn’t easy to evoke a sense of shame in me.

I have this fear of being bored by what the top wants to do. I don’t mean the kind of boredom you’d experience by being confined in a dark space for a long period. My fear is of becoming disengaged with the scene.

I’d civilly and docilely continue with whatever I’m ordered to do. But my attention will be elsewhere. The top would have no way to know but for me the scene would be over.

Perhaps even worse the humiliating act so silly that I’m embarrassed for the top’s sake. And don’t want to confess that in any post-scene debriefing.

So I’m grateful to have some plain nutty connection with my testicles so that their being manipulated evokes feelings parallel to shame.

And degradation - rendering the sensual or aesthetic disgusting - is a bit less likely to natural inclination toward detachment and irony betray me in BDSM play.

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The top would have no way to know

Oh but we do. Just as Pooh Bear would know if his honey jar was empty ;)

You have noted the times when I’ve noticed. Hell, a couple of times I’ve even started to bore myself by not being inventive enough.

I have some ideas to get around this. Perhaps a quick jolt to the ‘nads would be enough though :)

I have faith in your ability and good will of course honey.

But my involuntary persnicketiness bothers me and worries me sometimes.

In all honesty I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t pleased that you feel this way (i.e. bothered).

You do have me wondering if there have been other things I may have said and done in the past that you thought were… I don’t know… Dumb? :)

But at the same time you know you want me to express myself freely.

Really I’m glad that you want to change this honey, and it’s nothing to get worried about either.

We need to talk about it. I wonder if at rare times you really need to be punished - properly. Not because you’re a bad person, but just… because you need it.

I don’t know… Whatever happens it’ll be fun.

Really I’m glad that you want to change this honey

Actually I can’t say that I want to “change” this. To be more easily humiliated would require that I become more conventional: neither of us would really welcome that.

But I do get distressed by the idea of not making you happy. Don’t want to diminish your pleasure.

I wonder if at rare times you really need to be punished - properly.

:-)

I didn’t really mean your humiliation threshold. It dawned on me that, between friends, I don’t think shoe licking is particularly humiliating either. Maybe humbling or something… I dono.

I was responding more to this sentence: “But my involuntary persnicketiness bothers me and worries me sometimes.”

Maybe I misunderstood and you want to stay persnickety. Or, maybe I will learn to respond to it in a pleasing way.

Who knows? (I don’t)

… my involuntary persnicketiness bothers me …

You know me. How I often start weighing the possible risks of something. Not that I feel you object to that.

And my more general point was my intermittent suspicion that there’s something you’d enjoy doing to me that I might not process in a way that would give you pleasure.

Not that I fear these things can’t be readily worked past. I just want to feel like I’m doing my best to make you happy.

“Perhaps even worse the humiliating act so silly that I’m embarrassed for the top’s sake. And don’t want to confess that in any post-scene debriefing.”…..Argh, isn’t this every top’s worst nightmare? The surefire way to HUMILIATE the top!

It’s one thing to express what one needs and what works for them but quite another to invoke even the slightest bit of criticism. Good idea to keep your mouth shut during recap Richard, lest it be taped shut for your next punishment!

Balance is the key I think. There are bound to be scenes which appeal more to the Domme than the sub, and vice versa. You gotta give to get and as long as both parties do that all is well. I confess there are times when I am perhaps slightly bored, (not in the “I’d rather be…..” way) but I try to think of it like any gift- It’s the thought that counts. And that is bidirectional- I as the Domme am giving great thought to humiliating him in ways that resonate with him, and he as my slave is giving me his agile and intelligent mind as my playground.

I admit, my slave is tough to humiliate and I love, even crave the challenge of it. I would not have him any other way. It is work to be certain, but the emotional payoff for us both when I hit the high notes so to speak is HUGE! I’m working on a personal theory that the brighter the sub, the more difficult to humiliate.

I say give me an intelligent slave, or give me vanilla (death)!

very new at this ….nervous but wanting to learn ….is it possible to have a guy submit over the net??? having trouble with the whole thing …want to be domme …but feel like the submissive one ….ugh …lol

Often the woman assigns the man tasks and watches him obey over a webcam.

Orangemyst, I found cyber-domination to be a good way to build up confidence and trust in yourself and others.

Start with a guy who is eager to make you feel Domme. That is important. A lot of men are just… well… not worthy of our time.

i was one of those tough to humiliate guys until i met my wife Lady D. She has a way of pushing my buttons. As part of our D/s relationship we have a Domestic Discipline contract which allows her to punish and humiliate me as she sees fit.Lady D knows that the way to control and humiliate me is thru my penis. She has mede me shave my pubic hair since we were first married and she inspects every week. She often ridicules me for my lack of pubic hair and small penis. Her attire for punishment sessions causes me humilliation. She wears a dress with either high heels or boots and i am naked. For day and weekend punishment sessions she has required me to remain naked the entire time or has had me wear a pink thong.

It is always pink isn’t it.

Having her dress in a sexy manner seems more like a reward than a punishment (nothing wrong with that.)

Investing emotion in genital hair strikes me as a bit silly.

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Richard

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